It is a great post. I'm gonna get one too very soon. Of course I'm going through Phil at bike n hike. There is absolutely no reason not to. I did ride mielke's salsa last year just for a minute, and I was greatly impressed. For me, from a price stand point. I'm either going pugsley or norco Bigfoot. As long as they can order the norco I think I'm leanin that way. Jake I definately agree with you on reading Surly's page! That really hits home with me as well!